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Julius Evola Docs Anonymous 09/12/2020 (Sat) 15:28:20 No. 35162
I'm in the last chapters of Revolt Against the Modern World and I struggle to understand many of the ideas he seems to define only vaguely. Currently the most important one, because of my interest in the miracle that was the Roman Empire, is the following excerpt: And so it happened that Christian egalitarianism, based on the principles of brotherhood, love, and community, became the mystical and religious foundation of a social ideal radically opposed to the pure Roman idea. Instead of universality, which is authentic only in its function as a hierarchical peak that does not abolish but presupposes and sanctions the differences among human beings, what arose was the ideal of collectivity reaffirmed in the symbol of the mystical body of Christ. Can someone please elaborate what this universality is? >inb4 you killed a thread for this. I would like this to become the documentation for all things evola. I've searched the archives, nothing similar exists.
Given your interest in the Roman Empire, you should read (and re-read) "The Mystique of Race in Ancient Rome," written by Evola. It's only a few pages long. Vesta/Hestia is actually FRYA in the Oera Linda book, virgin progenitor of the white race. Having read Ride the Tiger, I think I can mostly answer your question: He is talking about a caste system versus the flat structure of Christian equality. SPQR was such a caste system. "Pure Roman ideas," I am thinking things like duty, discipline, organizing people into a command/obey structure (caste hierarchy again).
>>35162 Funny, I finished this book just last week. Universality seems to have a few meanings for Evola. In the case of the Roman Empire, which he views as the ‘best’ expression of ‘Aryan’ civilization in recorded history (which he believes derived its essence from the legacy of pre historic Hyperborea), universality denotes the fundamental, underlying ‘essence’, which united a number of disparate, conquered peoples. This Roman essence bore all the hallmarks of Tradition, particularly the virile, Solar and Hyperborean variant in a truly potent form. This ‘universality’ which united the people and castes, is completely differentiated from ‘collectivity’, which is found in its most pronounced and degenerate form in our current time, but was also ‘echoed’ by the ‘anti Traditional’, Semitic elements which are inherent to Christianity. Collectivity and universality both ‘unite’ a people, but the former does so through crude reduction, and is alien to the ‘High Traditions’ of old, whereas the latter, embodies them completely.
>>35192 >>35202 Thank you both. This is only the first work by him I'm reading and there's something else I wonder about: I truly adore especially the second part of Mein Kampf because of the many concrete&pragmatic advices/illustrations Adi gives regarding the creation and leading of a (meta)political party. >In order to achieve true interest and growth in your party and attract and engage individuals willing to fight for it, it is absolutely cruical that your ideas transcend the mere political to instead define a Weltanschauung. >In order not to confuse and divide the followers a single(!) enemy (der Jude) must be presented and every problem reworked and presented as a variant or manifestation of this core enemy. Such simple yet practical and priceless considerations. With Evola however, I don't really seem to get that. I'm having trouble understanding how to apply his wisdom, what to do in order to bring a group/civilisation closer to the Solar principle. Currently I'm at the level of >sometimes be able to recognize traits of the Lunar/Southern mentality >this bad or >sometimes be able to recognize traits of Solar/Hyperborean mentality >this good But I don't know how to progress further than that. How to counter the Lunar or instill Solar principles in a group and thus inch it closer to Tradition. >tldr, what concretely should one do to help form a Solar/Hyperborean civilisation?
>>35235 The issue of feasible and practical 'implementation' of these ideals, is certainly one which Evola never quite solved. The fact that he was an inherent contrarian, through and through, did not help matters. His critique of fascism for 'not going far enough', is well known, but in general, he appreciated its fundamental 'essence' and 'feeling', especially the National Socialists. Later in life, he adopted the stance of detachment, of being 'apolitical', and 'riding the tiger'. Therefore, at this stage of his thought, there is no meaningful external 'group struggle', only the individual path of each man to the Transcendent. However, he still stresses that the only way forward, for any potential future movement which seeks to 'fix the West', is the establishment of an 'Elite', a vanguard group of Traditionally minded men, imbued with the same 'Order ethos' which formed such historical groups as the Knights Templar. Any movement which seeks to 'attract the masses', is immediately compromised, UNLESS this inner core of individuals is formed at the beginning. The wankery of the current 'rightwing' movement demonstrates this nicely. Of course, in retrospect we have learned that this 'Order', was actually present at the core of National Socialism, with organizations such as Thule forming the foundation, and the pragmatic brilliance of Hitler resulting in its exoteric success. But with Evola being the eternal critic he was, and with his lofty, specific standards, such a movement would never escape his condemning gaze... In the introduction for 'Men Among the Ruins', I read that near his death, Evola supposedly said, "One must rescue what that which can be rescued, choose the lesser evil, and ally oneself with the moderate in order to fight the subversion". Perhaps, this represents that he eventually accepted the necessity for pragmatic compromise, which he so viciously, and in retrospect, quite fruitlessly, critiqued fascism for practicing. >With Evola however, I don't really seem to get that. I'm having trouble understanding how to apply his wisdom, what to do in order to bring a group/civilisation closer to the Solar principle. >But I don't know how to progress further than that. How to counter the Lunar or instill Solar principles in a group and thus inch it closer to Tradition. I think Evola explains that both of these modalities, Solar and Lunar, are both dead, and only their corrupted, distorted 'echoes' remain, with both forces being primarily replaced and destroyed by materialism, which is a demonic force which destroys all forms of spirituality. So it's not a case of 'rejecting the Lunar', at least as the Lunar existed in the Traditional world, but rather building Tradition from the ground up, defeating materialism (which represents the culmination of the degrading interaction between Solar and Lunar archetypes over the millennia). Evola actually views this as a potentially beneficial solution. Since all spirituality is current dead and rotting, we have the chance to resurrect a 'Solar mythos' in a pure, unadulterated form, since the 'Lunar' vestiges have also died under the influence of materialism. Evola suggests that this is yet another sign that the cycle has truly come to an end, all spirituality is dead, now we can finally 'restart', in a pure fashion.
Do not forget the whole point of riding the tiger is to knife it at the moment it becomes vulnerable. Riding the tiger means preparing for that moment. Accumulate power, form a covert group. Agitate Christians to protest like they used to. Remind them they used to be knights. These kind of things. >But I don't know how to progress further than that. How to counter the Lunar or instill Solar principles in a group and thus inch it closer to Tradition. Basic redpilling like raising racial awareness accomplishes much of this and prepares people for more advanced ideas down the line.
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>>35263 Read here (page 326) of the actualisations of Lunar spirituality in the modern world.

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