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A Quote From HP Lovecraft. Anonymous 06/24/2020 (Wed) 02:10:58 ID:f19788 No. 29582
WARNING before reading. If you are the sort of illiterate low IQ Nigger who is utterly and completely unable to read and comprehend a thread more then three sentences long. Fuck off. This is shit is not for you. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Now in the fond sincere hope that the subhumans have left us i would like to expound (to any interested) on some thoughts i've had on the quote i posted which are specifically and inherently of a political nature. In it Lovecraft makes reference to a social phenomenon noticed by in much less poetic terms by Nietzsche in his work "The Mad Man" several decades prior. The phenomenon is in broad terms what some would call "The Death of God" or, perhaps more literally the discovery of the origins of man as a biological organism shaped through the whims of nature without great interference from a creator at any given point. It was Lovecraft's assertion (as well as Nietzsche interestingly) that the ensuing conclusions of such knowledge would either force man into an emotional reasertions of such superstitions as he had been originally disposed to (IE Fascism, Fundamentalism, Theocracy) or the complete and utter abandonment of all values including self preservation towards an end of ultimate insanity and destruction (IE Communism, Anarchism, Nihilism). It is between these two conclusions that the vast majority of the 20th was fought. And while they may SEEM to be the only conclusions given the data i believe there is a third option. IE the Understand of Man as biological organism and the objective and inherent purpose that entails. This has been realized (albeit imperfectly) in the form of National Socialism which, while only briefly attempted in Germany, can and should create an objective morality around which human beings can orient their lives. All things from sex, to murder to breathing can be understood to be objectively good or bad in so far as they either help or hinder the procreation of ones genes as their objectively and undeniably evolutionary creatures in the material world with the objective and express purpose to pass on as much of their genetic material as possible. This is thus the next step in the philosophical journey of western man and that which will give us objective meaning and an objectively true morality to organize our societies on the basis of.
I agree on your view on National Socialism. Have a bump.
>>29582 Yeah so there is a plan actually and it's about Aryan spirits accruing points in universal ranking . This being achieved by nurturing a better society that allows for the burgeoning of greater minds, i.e. better spirits attracted to this world, finding themselves a nice and cozy avatar suit body, in order to fight and for them to win more points. This is a Game. All of it. A staged Game.
Yes; what is good for your people's existence and evoultion is morally "good", what is bad for your people is morally "bad". From that we built the basis of morality. What about it? It feels like you didn't finish your post, are you just blogging? Also what about National Socialism is "imperfect" in the ways of building a society based around the fundmental laws of nature it has come as perfectly close as man can come. What problems do you have with it? The only problem I can see is Hitler approaching the Jewish Question from a purely exclusionary route, when we know that doesn't work long term.
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>>29582 Its not a bad idea but the thing you are missing is that you haven’t (apparently) got over the idealism/spirituality Vs materialism bullshittery (sorry, not intellectual word, noe bulley plz). National Socialism isn’t just genetic interests - yes, it can be understood in that way & it includes genetic interests & Darwinian struggle. But there is a bigger truth that National Socialism contains that genetic interests are a manifestation of. The term you may have heard is Natural Law, these are the structures & mechanisms of the universe. The very principles on which reality is based & from which it arises & is formed of. They are TRUTHS. Natural Law is Reality - Truth - Morality. What is reality without its fundamental principles? What is Truth without Reality? What is morality but right action based on Truth? Natural Law is simultaneously Reality, Truth, Morality & our awareness of it. What does this have to do with materialism Vs idealism? Here you go: <'2. Whatever Peoples perception of God, or Gods, or the motive Force of the <Universe might be, they can hardly deny that Nature's Law are the work of, and <therefore the intent of, that Force.' David Eden Lane, 88 Precepts, precept 2. We are neither materialist or idealist because both reject parts of reality & insist that things function in the manner they imagine. Materialism reduces us to little more than a mechanism while idealism impotently denies the irrefutable physical truths that our continued existence is based upon. Thus both are crippled, incomplete, life denying & not fit for any whole & honest man. Unlike materialism or abstract idealism National Socialism is not dogmatic, stunted, petty or life denying. We combine idealism with a vigorous & healthy grasp of physical reality because that is the manifestation of the very truths that we proceed from. National Socialism is neither the precious intellectualism & unrealistic abstract ideas of academics & theorists. Neither does it arise from the petty materialism of lesser men who only know the cost of things but never the value. National Socialism is as robust, practical & adaptable as the nature from which it arises & the act of living in the material universe in accordance with Natural Law is a spiritual & philosophical act. They are one & the same thing. In other words by following the simple requirements of genetic interests and so on we are acting in accordance with the will of any god/gods/fedoras that may exist. The struggle for life, racial loyalty, family, community, nation are spiritual & physical acts. They are not separate. They are not mere evolution & struggle. They are sacred truths. This means that your idea of either happy fantasy or ruthless materialism is flawed & incomplete. That doesn’t mean its wrong entirely. There IS a big element of fear & cowardice in the anti-logos trash. When they reject fundamental inequality in favour of egalitarian fantasies for instance. Any use?
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>>29582 Its not a bad idea but the thing you are missing is that you haven’t (apparently) got over the idealism/spirituality Vs materialism bullshittery (sorry, not intellectual word, noe bulley plz). National Socialism isn’t just genetic interests - yes, it can be understood in that way & it includes genetic interests & Darwinian struggle. But there is a bigger truth that National Socialism contains that genetic interests are a manifestation of. The term you may have heard is Natural Law, these are the structures & mechanisms of the universe. The very principles on which reality is based & from which it arises & is formed of. They are TRUTHS. Natural Law is Reality - Truth - Morality. What is reality without its fundamental principles? What is Truth without Reality? What is morality but right action based on Truth? Natural Law is simultaneously Reality, Truth, Morality & our awareness of it. What does this have to do with materialism Vs idealism? Here you go: <'2. Whatever Peoples perception of God, or Gods, or the motive Force of the <Universe might be, they can hardly deny that Nature's Law are the work of, and <therefore the intent of, that Force.' David Eden Lane, 88 Precepts, precept 2. We are neither materialist or idealist because both reject parts of reality & insist that things function in the manner they imagine. Materialism reduces us to little more than a mechanism while idealism impotently denies the irrefutable physical truths that our continued existence is based upon. Thus both are crippled, incomplete, life denying & not fit for any whole & honest man. Unlike materialism or abstract idealism National Socialism is not dogmatic, stunted, petty or life denying. We combine idealism with a vigorous & healthy grasp of physical reality because that is the manifestation of the very truths that we proceed from. National Socialism is neither the precious intellectualism & unrealistic abstract ideas of academics & theorists. Neither does it arise from the petty materialism of lesser men who only know the cost of things but never the value. National Socialism is as robust, practical & adaptable as the nature from which it arises & the act of living in the material universe in accordance with Natural Law is a spiritual & philosophical act. They are one & the same thing. In other words by following the simple requirements of genetic interests and so on we are acting in accordance with the will of any god/gods/fedoras that may exist. The struggle for life, racial loyalty, family, community, nation are spiritual & physical acts. They are not separate. They are not mere evolution & struggle. They are sacred truths. This means that your idea of either happy fantasy or ruthless materialism is flawed & incomplete. That doesn’t mean its wrong entirely. There IS a big element of fear & cowardice in the anti-logos trash. When they reject fundamental inequality in favour of egalitarian fantasies for instance. Any use?
>>29608 *sad noise*
>>29607 bumping in hopes your post is read
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>>29604 >Yes; what is good for your people's existence and evoultion is morally "good", what is bad for your people is morally "bad". From that we built the basis of morality. What about it? It feels like you didn't finish your post, are you just blogging? Perhaps this thread would be more significant on half chan as this board does tend to have a higher quality of poster But the ability to construct a morality on the basis of the reality of the natural world is not insignificant Nor is it understood by all people, even within in our own movement. >Also what about National Socialism is "imperfect" in the ways of building a society based around the fundmental laws of nature it has come as perfectly close as man can come. What problems do you have with it? I have none with National Socialism as an ideology Merely that its implementation was in Germany was imperfect. Close mind you, but not completely and utterly uncorrupted in its implimentation. Hitler for instance did not personally believe that humans evolved from micro-organisms and as a result this misshaped the riechs understanding of biology. Some of the intellectuals like Himmler understand this however, it just wasnt uniform within the ruiling sect of the party as it should have been. >The only problem I can see is Hitler approaching the Jewish Question from a purely exclusionary route, when we know that doesn't work long term. Not to play devils advocate But it would have at the least taken some doing for the jews to meme their way back into power after being banished to an island in the south indian sea forbidden from returning to the mainland.
>>29645 >Merely that its implementation was in Germany was imperfect. Consider the inner and outer context. It's a miracle that it even happened. Most certainly what needs to be done is to resume the work and improve on it. >Hitler for instance did not personally believe that humans evolved from micro-organisms and as a result this misshaped the riechs understanding of biology. He also believed that stars actually were worlds. I'm puzzled as to how he got visited by this weird idea, unless his definition of world was so alien to what we understand today that it should have actually be replaced by another word.
>>29645 I suppose it's complex to outsiders; but this isn't a board for outsiders. >>Hitler for instance did not personally believe that humans evolved from micro-organisms That's a minor difference, we were still ironing out the exact details about evolution at that time (and still are). His understanding of the overall systems of evolution and natural selection was on point and he applied it rather well, the only things needed to be changed are auxiliary racial laws and the like. Our increased knowledge of evolution BUILDS on what Hitler established, it doesn't contradict. >>it would have at the least taken some doing for the jews to meme their way back into power after being banished to an island in the south indian sea forbidden from returning to the mainland. AD 41-45 Cladius expels the Jews from Rome, they came back. 1290 We expelled them from England, they came back. 1306 We expelled them from France and once again in 1322 we expelled them again because... they came back. They always come back, and we always expel them for the same reasons; subversion and greed. It's hardwired in their biology and taught to them in their Holy book, they will never change. Is it not insanity to try the same thing we have already tried before? And is it not insanity to try this same misguided "solution" when the problem came back ten times worse? The Jew laughs at us when he names his mythos the "Final Solution" because he knows that it is the only solution to the Jewish Question; Extermination. We simply can't afford to keep playing this game of expel and come back; every time we do we lose and we are on the cusp of losing our entire race to this gamble. And yet you want to expel again? So they can come back, so our children can perhaps be exposed to the same plague we were. Why? What do we gain? Certiantly not good press; Hitler was willing to give them a home of their own and look where that got him press wise. But we lose everything if they once again subvert us and bury themselves in our goverments. As they have many times, and as they will again because they have to, they can't manage on their own they are parasites. Jews are a lesser race: that unlike niggers is good at feeding off their host stealthily and long term. Just look at Israel, that wouldn't exist without our help and constant maintenance. So yes; They will come back. They always come back. Unless we do something different this time. >>He also believed that stars actually were worlds. Germany had a better understanding of the sky than the Allies; why do you think they were the ones that got them to the moon in the end?
>>29607 Interesting Shit. I'll have to give Eden Lane more reading. Thanks for your thoughts anon. >>29655 >Consider the inner and outer context. It's a miracle that it even happened. Most certainly what needs to be done is to resume the work and improve on it. Oh undeniably Im not trying to shit on hitler by any stretch of the imagination Just be honest and thorough of our analysis of the reich. >He also believed that stars actually were worlds. Honestly sounds like some Lovecraft teir shit, he may have had a more fantastical imagination then he let on in public speech. The man was an artist after all. >>29661 >That's a minor difference, we were still ironing out the exact details about evolution at that time (and still are). Fair point. Just wanted to explain what i mean by "imperfect" >Our increased knowledge of evolution BUILDS on what Hitler established, it doesn't contradict. Agreed. >They always come back Yeah i get it anon And im not trying to shill for deporting the Jews over dealing with them outright (tho if thats what it takes to secure a National Socialist state to begin with i would except it of needs be) My real defence tho was of Hitler's plans for deportation in that specific case. Underwhich the jews would have been relegated to a primitive island to live amoung negroes without any hope of returning to the mainland lest they be sunk by german submarine. Under those circumstances i contend Hitler was not entirely wrong in believing it might be above even the jews abilities to "come back" Especially given the fact that reich promoted anti-semetic doctrine as a core stone of german culture and literature.
To subject every moral law to procreation is evil.
>>29745 What does he mean by this?
>>29673 Preserving some of them in a controlled and isolated environment might have a purpose though. No matter how much we write and provide evidence about their vile atrocities, their abhorrent nature and behavior, their plots and schemes, our children in the future would have a really hard time believing those as it would be so distant from their own nature. For them, Jews could as well be some comic book villains or fantastic monsters, a product of a very sick and twisted imagination. Hell, even today most white people find it hard to even begin to grasp the nature of the JQ, it is simply too hard for them to believe that someone could be so vile, yet so calculated and organized. That such an ancient mafia exists, whose power reaches everywhere. It gets dismissed as imagination, as a "conspiracy theory". Even when it becomes as obvious as a day, when they reveal themselves in the open. Why would one preserve a living evidence of such infernal creatures existing when they could pose no threat when they are entirely exterminated, you may ask? Well, the Jew is not a race, it's not a product of natural processes, it lacks telos entirely. It's entirely artificial, an anti-race. And what was created once, can be created again. Give me enough resources and I will create a new "Jewish race" from the scratch.
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>>29582 Your post feels a little incomplete OP. You laid out a great introduction about the purpose of humanity when objectivism and human advancement destroyed the foundation of humanity's moral structure and purpose of life (religion/God). And how this destruction makes any morality and ideals meaningless which leads to either nihilism or regression. You mentioned Nietzsche and he discussed this into far greater detail and depth than Lovecraft, (your OP should have centered around him instead tbh). But, from what I interpret, you didn't seem to propose anything other than the propagation of our race on the basis that there are objective factors which advance (good) or restrain (bad) this propagation. This is like saying the purpose of existence is to exist. If by this you're trying to emphasize the continuation and even active implementation of Darwinism and natural selection and eugenic measures then you're spot on. However, I believe this Darwinism is only a facet (a fundamental one) of the true purpose of humanity. Which is to ascend to godhood and conquer to the stars. National Socialism was incomplete in this way as it didn't explicitly strive to transcend humanity with the explicit endgame of godhood in its pursuit of the superior man (which is perfectly understandable considering the vast majority of the population were Christian farmers and laborers, still safely clung to the values of the past). Nietzsche also speaks of this superior man and how the ultimate values of humanity are going to be the ones this Superman produces out of his own ambition and will. We are simply caught in the darkness in between the old ideals of religion and the new ideals of the god-like next stage of humanity. Either we continue to evolve in pursuit of this superman, or we continue down the decay of modern world of consumerism, accumulation, and degeneracy. It would be arrogant for any of us to claim to know the ideals of the superman but I do know this, it isn't equality, hedonism, or the shortsighted pursuits of peace and accumulation of wealth of today. Humanity's ultimate purpose is our expansion to the cosmos, though technologically impossible at present, in the same way the Europeans had no notion of how they could explore and conquer the world in the classical period. As for what we can do now, we must establish a National Socialist state, ideally an ethno-globe, hellbent on the creation of the Superman and technological advancement, free from the shortsightedness and delusions of peace and equity. This is the ultimate embrace of Nature, which selects the strong, the superior, and makes him strive even higher. And Lovecraft is right about this OP, this destiny, in its grandiosity is beyond comprehension for Man now, terrifying even, but Man won't be the same when we get there.
>>29766 False necessity. Do you need to have someone shit on your knees to appreciate the taste of a well cooked fish? Keeping them around is a danger. >Hell, even today most white people find it hard to even begin to grasp the nature of the JQ, it is simply too hard for them to believe that someone could be so vile And never will, so we don't need to wait for them to understand. If there will be NPCs in the far future, they will be as naive and weak as they are now. Keeping a zoo of live Jews to allow to see those things for real will never manage to illustrate the destruction Jews are capable of. Never. In fact, these NPCs will feel pity for the poor poor Jews kept captive in the zoo. Tales will be sufficiently.
>>29814 Oh no, they wouldn't be kept in cages or anything like that. They would have enough space to roam and jew freely, in fact, they would be convinced that they are free. We would then introduce some other groups so they can jew them to the bone, and this behavior would be displayed to young generations. As I said, even if you remove them completely, another Jews might spawn and do the same as these are doing today, which is why the only way to deal with them is immunization.
>>29775 Are you a propertarian?
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>>29775 > But, from what I interpret, you didn't seem to propose anything other than the propagation of our race on the basis that there are objective factors which advance (good) or restrain (bad) this propagation. This is like saying the purpose of existence is to exist. I would posit that IT IS objectively that. And in fact is whether we would like it to be or not. We are what we are whether we wish to be or not The purpose of a self-propagating gene is in fact to self propagate. > If by this you're trying to emphasize the continuation and even active implementation of Darwinism and natural selection and eugenic measures then you're spot on. >However, I believe this Darwinism is only a facet (a fundamental one) of the true purpose of humanity. Which is to ascend to godhood and conquer to the stars. I disagree. And i think its pretty obvious why that is the case. Humanity is first and foremost an evolutionary organism. Its job (as well as the job of every individual human) is to procreate as much of its genes as possible It is nature that determines what is inferior and superior. IF it is mankind's destiny to achieve godhood, it will be a result of them striving for godhood, but rather of them striving for survival and attaining godhood in the process. >Nietzsche also speaks of this superior man and how the ultimate values of humanity are going to be the ones this Superman produces out of his own ambition and will. I am aware, and i believe he was wrong this respect. No individual man even an "Over Man" as Nietzsche posited, can imbue human life with meaning purely on the basis of his will alone. Rather human life can only be given purpose through the discovery of that which is objectively purpose. Which is at it turns out is the same as every other living thing on earth, our intellect being an asset to that end not an end unto itself. Understanding this allows us to understand the OBJECTIVE meaning of life which justifies our value system in a much a deeper and fuller way then any individual "Over Man" could possibly through argument or force of his opinion.
>>33348 stop fucking trying to read Nietzsche Read hitler or pay attention to the ethnoPhase
>>31256 >another Jews might spawn Yes, it will likely happen. So it will be the duty of the future guardians to hunt them down and destroy these seeds anytime, anywhere. >which is why the only way to deal with them is immunization There is no immunization. I don't understand why you bring a virology based lexicon into this. Only a proper system that tells us what to do, what to look for, in order to prevent this to happen again, will work. I already debunked your argument that keeping Jews around is necessary. It is false. Totally false. Jews can be fully understood in a world of pure decadence. Out of such a world, they will return to an idea, one we will have to make sure doesn't get a chance to find a new populace to become the biological avatar of. There is no use, purpose or benefit in letting them live. We must hunt them down and destroy anything that acts like them. It is an eternal struggle. Our plight of to-day is caused by our inability to understand that we, too, must see the necessity and beauty in justified murder, in sacred and honorable genocide. We will need a future religion that will be almost verging on the caricature, to be sure to guide our race on a path of light, truth and survival, one that will show us the legitimacy and necessity in destroying the infidels, the heretics, the aliens, with its own dedicated legion of hunter-killers. No more weepers on the corpse of a rabbi nailed to cheap wood, elevating the meek and the weak to rank of dictators. Make room for a white religion that fits with Nature, not one that fights against it.
>>33377 >So it will be the duty of the future guardians to hunt them down and destroy these seeds anytime, anywhere. Will they know to recognize them in time? >I don't understand why you bring a virology based lexicon into this. Because we are dealing with a literal virus. The more corrupt the Volk is, the more the Jew thrives, that's why he always seeks to alter and degenerate the social environment. Make the Volk incorruptible and the Jew becomes like fish on the dry, completely powerless. There is also a potential weaponized use of the Jew pathogen on xenos, just as it was unleashed on us.
>>33408 >Will they know to recognize them in time? They are not exactly hard to spot, right? Ugly uncreative ruthless parasites who focus on money and lie lie lie lie while pretending being victims, fond of finding ways to start brotherly wars to increase destruction and debt, with a knack for subversion and a love of migrants they try to shove into our lands, mostly by appealing to our hedonism or women. They have not changed since Heliopolis, Babylon and Rome have they? >Because we are dealing with a literal virus. The more corrupt the Volk is, the more the Jew thrives, that's why he always seeks to alter and degenerate the social environment. All the more reasons to sterilize the land then. Quarantine will not suffice. Again, the Jew can only be fully experienced and understood by a few wise men and only in situations when their infiltration has become widespread. I don't care if our descendants will not understand what a Jew is because that is not something I would want them to experience. We will tell them, "what you will hear are not legends" and proceed to describe them so any resurgence of a new strand of this race can be easily recognized and nipped in the bud. > Make the Volk incorruptible and the Jew becomes like fish on the dry, completely powerless. There is also a potential weaponized use of the Jew pathogen on xenos, just as it was unleashed on us. Stop fapping to ridiculous theories. Jews don't care about strangers, they care about us, they hate us and envy us. Anything between Aryans and Jews is pure collateral damage. In other words, irrelevant.

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