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We're Being Scrubbed Anonymous 11/30/2019 (Sat) 22:53:59 ID:142151 No. 16625
This has been predicted all the way back in 2016, but it bears repeating because we probably have less than a year before these types of websites are allowed to exist. I bring your attention to: https://www.poynter.org/ifcn/anti-misinformation-actions/ Specifically, note the way that this is being marketed. After the 2016 election, people were being persuaded that misinformation cost the Democrats the election, as well as foreign interference. This was to create consent for information control. Social media has cracked down hard on independent reporting and spreading of information. This year, imageboards have been targeted directly because of their ability to spread information which is threatening to the powers. During the last election, The_Donald was set up as a beach head on Reddit, a way to influence the site. It is now quarantined. It is likely that these websites will be down within a year, because webhosts will actively suppress them. At the very most, we have about five years left. We should be looking at new ways of spreading information that ISN'T obscure technology like Tor. The problem with Tor is that it keeps information away from the broader public. I think phone-apps like Wickr or Signal and neighborhood mesh-networks will be the future. Learn from Antifa and how they coordinate, copy them and use it for ourselves.
Don't worry, I'm sure Sheldon Adelson will pay big money for Israeli firms to shill for Trump. I'm mean, look at 4cuck ptg. That shit has been going 24/7 for over a thousand days now.
>>16625 political parties don't matter. trump isn't going to give you anything if he wins. only solution is killing people, taking their shit, and you and yours deciding what to do with that shit.
>>16632 If political parties didn't matter, then we wouldn't have witnessed the result of the last election which was a complete meltdown of our political system and media damage control for 3 years. If Trump was just another expected factor, then his victory would have been buried in the news cycle and congress would be business as usual. Trump was a monkey wrench. We had 4 years to use this monkey wrench to our advantage, and all we got was purity spiral nazis doxxing each other and destroying the one chance for an organic New Right to emerge and take over from the momentum. What we have now is pathetic, and cringe.
>>16634 If Trump wasn't an expected factor, he wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the zionist party, I mean, the republican party.
>>16634 >We had 4 years to use this monkey wrench Was it even a month into his presidency when he deregulated GMO food labeling, killed fuel efficiency standards while raising the federal gasoline tax, and bombing Syria on the exact same fraudulent "intelligence" the nigger before him tried to act on?
>>16634 >we wouldn't have because reasons that aren't even necessary Don't assume you understand your enemies plans dumb dumb
>>16625 Tor isn't obscure anymore. I know boomers who know what it is.
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If there is ever actually any success in driving politically incorrect truth off the clear net, while we, the technological elite who can still access our kin through the likes of zeronet or other decentralized or darkweb solutions, many anons will be driven into the streets and to IRL action. As much as our shitposting is a thorn in (((their))) side, it is also a pressure release valve, a way to vent our frustrations, and as much as mere shitposting is changing the world, without /pol/ to consume our time placating our rage we will have but one other outlet, the world itself, we will work our magics and passions in the meatspace and not merely over the internet with the collective morphogenetic field of mankind. If you strike /pol/ down, we shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
>>16793 >[allowed] pressure release valve That sentiment has been expressed before, I don't really buy it. Half of the TPTB, will not care or not acknowledge it, and try shut it down. The other half want us out there in the meatspace committing acts to justify shutting us down, imo.
>>16802 >The other half want us out there in the meatspace committing acts to justify shutting us down, imo. They don't need real world acts to justify any of that. Never have, never will. The example of the Taliban refutes you directly. Real world action is always the best course. Violent degradation of imperial forces will always yield positive results.
>>16625 Don't forget measures and laws against "fake news", aka "what we say is true so nobody is allowed to say anything different than the truth we say everyday, which we say since it's true because we're the ones saying it, right goyim?"
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>>16625 >We should be looking at new ways of spreading information that ISN'T obscure technology like Tor. This I agree. Although, it can expand to any form of communication and connection. The problem is spreading information in broader public, as every time it is done, it goes shut down. >>16805 >meatspace This is also another course of action to take right now, as the sooner we start the more we have a solid foundation in the future, instead of figuring out how to start or just starting out when things decide to go south in the near future. My problem is trying to figure out solid solutions to following: (1) - Find a new home for us in case we get scrubbed completely, if this option is even possible. We need to establish communication with each other, otherwise it will be like another 8chin. I agree with OP in finding new forms of communication in phone-apps, although it can be expanded to any forms of communication, but de-centralized is ideal. (2) - We need detailed information and ways on how to find like minded people and organize in meatspace. This is going to be inevitable in the future, might as well start now to get a solid foundation, and it seems real world action seems like the best course of option. This all seems very similar to guerilla warfare; except we are the guerillas and (((they))) are the main force. We are getting the boot, and must retreat and regroup in rural areas and tiny towns (any areas that isn't exposed to the broader masses to distribute our information in), while (((they))) control the cities (broader areas of the masses, mainstream). The main objective at the moment to focus on is controlling the population. The more we have the population on our side (getting redpilled and waking up) the more (((they))) lose control over the population and their power slips.
>>16839 >(((they))) control the cities They barely control anything productive or sustainable, especially "diverse" areas. The populations which (((they))) truly control are highly dependent on the system compared to true patriots, by many metrics. The only thing they exert is social control and manipulation, which however is very valuable in a globalized world. That can wither when physical conditions change. Their power is fickle. Chin-Up!
>>16632 Shill.
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>>16802 <[allowed] pressure release valve >That sentiment has been expressed before, I don't really buy it. Well buy it or not, the reality is that many of us used to, or still do, spend hours a day on /pol/ or other image boards, and when happenings are upon us, even more. Those hours we are not walking around IRL meeting people, forging friendships, knitting alliances, spreading the word, calling out the lies all in the most subtly powerful way only an anon could. >The other half want us out there in the meatspace committing acts to justify shutting us down, imo. >Implying all IRL actions must be illegal actions <What is civil disobedience? >Implying that even targeted or direct actions must be illegal <What is infojamming? >Half of the TPTB, will not care or not acknowledge it, and try shut it down. So supposedly <half of half, (1/4) does not care <(1/4) will try to shut it down <(2/4) want us in meatspace any way. That may have been a viable strategy before the hivemind became self aware, but now it's a whole nother ball game. And if multiple anons manage to find each other and form any part of a cell together it will be a most elite unit. Furthermore one of the problems with this tactical implementations is that it has little or no actual structure, a shadow, if even, of a form, no way to possibly get any more information than that of a handful of shitposters, every one so amorphic and nebulious trying to attack the swarm yields no tactical fruit yet still the hivemine see the strikes and takes calculated counters into effect. If there is some kind of centralizing point then they can at least monitor, even if they have little ideal what they actually are seeing, they have some level of larger awareness of their enemy. This very reason that in asiatic martial arts you do want to touch your enemy, so you can feel his body movements, but you keep the contact at the wrist/hand/forearm, as to keep them out of striking distance unless you mean to strike yourself. Though this does not so directly transfer when you are dealing with a swarm, or even an institution
>>17196 A lot of good points Anon, some of which I was thinking of earlier today. Your right about getting out there into the meatspace of course. For a while I have been working on red pilling IRL, with some success I must say. It is much easier to red pill folks if they know and trust you. Even if they don't 100% believe at first you plant seeds that can make them more aware and more open to larger pills. Online we tend to just circle jerk in the echo chamber or go head to head with people that will not move from their position no matter what tactic you try. Most "normies" are already aware things are not right even if they don't know why and I find they are quite hungry for the truth. Of course breaking their conditioning is a bit a challenge but if your gentle and don't come in too hot, sounding like a rasis' or ebil nazi, it is doable.
>>16839 >finding new forms of communication in phone-apps no offense, but FUCK NO. There aren't any mobile devices that are secure. Anything within Jewgel's ecosystem should be considered compromised.
>>17222 Goes without saying that Apple is out too I was planing to go with a Huawei phone for my next purchase, let the Chin's read my texts at least they wont share with the 5 eyes. Carrier company will still be an issue but perhaps a work around will come along. A friend also pointed out a start up company Pine64, their first laptop was trial and more novelty joke than PC, the new one Pinebook Pro looks OK, and the next one (in development) coming might actually be totally up to spec. Reason I mention is they also have created a phone, based on architecture from first laptop but might be OK, something for Anons to look into. Phones and laptops are Linux based and use open source software pic related https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
>>16636 >>16637 What you saw in the leadup to the 2016 election was the "neutral" powers shed their masks and reveal themselves as part of a cultural takeover of our country from within. When Trump won, and since then, you see an unprecedented abuse of power from the left. This isn't business as usual as it was during Bush. We're seeing a desperate abuse of power because Trump wasn't supposed to be elected, and he is a threat to the long game which was planned out for decades. We can see this by the sheer carelessness and desperation in the response. The level of corruption and meddling from what were supposedly neutral institutions. It's really obvious. >>16793 Moving to the darkweb does nothing but satisfy the end goal of completely alienating and minimizing the existence of a counter-culture against the current leftist revolution. If you were paying attention this has been the end goal all along. Once the election went into full swing, and Trump won, the left has waged a systematic effort to dismantle us. I already highlighted this. The left has adapted and is winning the war because everyone here doesn't have a clue what's going on. >>16839 As I said, Wickr or Signal are good examples of technology which would broaden our existence and make it harder to shut down. We are GOING TO BE SCRUBBED off the clearnet before the end of 2020, I would bet money on it. >>17222 If your presence is erased on the clearnet then you use existing infrastructure to exist. That would be phone apps. If it really makes you uncomfortable then root an android phone and use it as a wifi tablet, but the point is you don't have the luxury of being a lurker forever.
>>16625 >The_Donald was set up as a beach head on Reddit How do magakikes find their way onto the more obscure chans? Can you please stop ruining everything. They don't need to scrub us, what they've been doing since 2016 is coopted a growing anti-ZOG movement with trump and flooded it with normie boomer 80iq retards like yourself.
>>16625 >Trump wasn't supposed to be elected ELECTIONS ARENT REAL YOU FUCKING RETARD THE VOTES ARENT COUNTED. How the fuck do people like you even exist? What fucking sub-human mind still thinks that (((democracy))) isn't an apparatus for kike control. You really think the real estate mogul new york billionaire WHO HAS JEWS IN HIS IMMEDIATE FAMILY is some sort of secret anti-kike? You people have ruined any sort of momentum the anti-ZOG movement had before 2016.
>>16634 >purity spiral nazis doxxing Oh its an obvious jidf faggot. A movement gains NOTHING by joining with other movements that have a fundamentally different worldview. Purity spiraling is what subversive kikes say when their kept out of infesting movements they deem harmful.
>>17325 You are arguing in bad faith, that is to say calling people names because you cannot actually reply to what was said. >>17327 You put the conclusion before the facts and so it is no wonder that you can fool yourself into thinking that the election didn't matter. As I have said a few times already: the behavior of the media, silicon valley, and the international stage shows that Trump's victory was not anticipated and that he was therefore not meant to be president. Thus, the elections we have matter. >>17328 More namecalling, which again betrays the fact that you have nothing useful to say here.
>>16631 That is where the redditors mainly go anywhere else besides that containment thread they constantly get shat on.
>>16625 Imageboards will still possibly exist in zeronet and tor, espeically things like nanochan, torchan, onionchan, over/nntp/oniichan, nullchan and that one thread in nanochan that is still alive because is dead has linked a shit ton of chans that can easily be turned into /pol/ colonies and dreddit was listed as one of them and even one with a similar name as this imageboard. Although that is for imageboardfags, once imageboards disappear I suggest making something similar to imageboard, but not exactly the same something that is like of evolution of some sorts.
>>17354 He is correct democracy should not be trusted especially when (((they))) have so much influence over it, remember jews often play both sides unless they are getting opposition that is attacking them physically, politically, and forcing them selves into power, hence why groups like antifa existed in the 30's to combat the nsdap. Nowadays antifa are useful morons and footmen to do what ever they plan using them for.
>>17319 >What you saw in the leadup to the 2016 election was the "neutral" powers shed their masks and reveal themselves as part of a cultural takeover of our country from within. When Trump won, and since then, you see an unprecedented abuse of power from the left. This isn't business as usual as it was during Bush. We're seeing a desperate abuse of power because Trump wasn't supposed to be elected, and he is a threat to the long game which was planned out for decades. We can see this by the sheer carelessness and desperation in the response. The level of corruption and meddling from what were supposedly neutral institutions. It's really obvious. You trumpnigger shills really lay it on thick.
>>17354 >As I have said a few times already: the behavior of the media, silicon valley, and the international stage shows that Trump's victory was not anticipated and that he was therefore not meant to be president. Yes, the jews who have turned manipulation into a science couldn't possibly think ahead of that. What I've seen since the elections is the revolutionary potential of the anti-ZOG movement completely destroyed and coopted by a movement that's content "triggering the libs XD" while nothing of substance has changed. Do you think fox news is free of kike influence? There are plenty of kike owned outlets that sing his praises. Democracy is meant to pit on half of the country against the other while the string pullers evade mention. The vast majority of Trump supports will call you an anti-Semite is you question Israel. Trump literally has jews in his immediate family and constantly praises Israel. Its been 3 years and nothing significant has changed, actually he's been even harder on Iran than Obama was and has given Israel the moral backing behind settlements and Jerusalem.
>>17543 >I suggest making something similar to imageboard, but not exactly the same something that is like of evolution of some sorts. I've thought about this. Image boards have done all they can, and their weaknesses have been exposed. They were great when the jews didn't take us seriously and saw it as an containment echo chamber and left us alone, but its just too easy to shill bomb.
>>17543 Zeronet and Tor are not options. If you care at all about where things are headed, then the dark web is where movements go to die of irrelevance. The only choice is to invade mainstream forums and spread awareness, create new networks. >>17544 Already commented on this multiple times. If elections didn't matter then Trump wouldn't have been elected and we would have Hillary in office. If you can't grasp that basic logic, that Hillary was intended to win last election and lost because we voted her out, then you're hopeless. >>17556 Hopeless stupidity on here it seems. >>17637 Once again you put the cart before the horse. Your reasoning looks like this: "The jews are omnipotent [conclusion] therefore elections don't matter [evidence]" The correct order is: "Do elections matter? [evidence] Therefore, the jews are not omnipotent [conclusion]." You continue to demoralize others and put the cart before the horse. This is nigger-tier thinking.
>>17671 >Hopeless stupidity on here it seems. It's a failure on your part to understand there is a fundamental opposition between our interests and yours, trumpnigger. We aren't on the same side.
>>17556 I agree, until: >You trumpnigger shills really lay it on thick. How does this relate to everything else you wrote? I think this is what set off the other anon.
>>17686 The green text formatting fucked up. Everything but the last line was a quote.
>>17673 >>17688 You lack the ability to reason, and so your arguments amount to: "Look! That guy is a doodyhead! Don't agree with him!" It's pathetic, really. You're a foolish person who doesn't realize it. >>17686 If anything, I'm "triggered" by smug idiots.
>>17747 >You lack the ability to reason. You've already been BTFO in this thread. >>16637 Shill somewhere else, trumpnigger.
What are you talking about dude noone actually gives a fuck. <<OP
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>>18532 Only spread the onion address. Will keep out the riff raff
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>>17319 > Trump wasn't supposed to be elected, and he is a threat to the long game which was planned out for decades. You got that so wrong son. You need to lurk 8 years more at least. MAGA
>>16634 In Burgerland it doesn't matter whether its the Republicucks OR the Demonrats in power, both parties are completely ZOG-managed. The only hope for Third-Position Nationalists is to wait for calamity to befall the country, and then fight to be the solution. The lemmings wont follow until life gets worse. We need some sort of party organization to be ready when it happens
>>17778 OK Boomer. >>18937 Tor and "muh sekrit club" is a dead-end which ultimately means having no effect on society. >>18950 I see no argument being made. I guess your brain must be atrophied by groupthink. >>18994 In other words you lack the ability to think your way out of the growing hell we are facing. Bad news for you: there won't be a calamity followed by revolution. There will only be a slow descent into an oppressive hell where the nation you live in looks something like venezuela. The only solution is to counter what is happening now, not to wait for a magical resolution.
>>16625 >obscure technology like Tor. >The problem with Tor is that it keeps information away from the broader public. Tor isn't obscure, don't spread misinformation about technology that you don't understand. And unless you're referring specifically to onion sites, there is nothing in the way of "information" on the darkweb that can't be found on the clearweb. Onions are pretty much all drug markets and cp anyways. Tor's purpose is to let one browse the internet anonymously. Even 16ch has an onion portal for torfags to use.
>>17671 >Already commented on this multiple times. If elections didn't matter then Trump wouldn't have been elected and we would have Hillary in office. If you can't grasp that basic logic, that Hillary was intended to win last election and lost because we voted her out, then you're hopeless Trump, Hillary, Obama, Bush - they are all the same breed of the Khazarian mafia. They are all puppets of Israel and of the Crown banking cartel. If you think you are better off with Trump then with any of these other scumbags, you are deceived. Trump is a puppet of the Illuminati = the Rothschilds, the Black Nobility families, the Vatican, the Jesuits. He is a tool. His promises are fake and a smokescreen. You have been duped by a liar.
>>17637 >therefore not meant to be president. Yes, the jews who have turned manipulation into a science couldn't possibly think ahead of that. What I've seen since the elections is the revolutionary potential of the anti-ZOG movement completely destroyed and coopted by a movement that's content "triggering the libs XD" while nothing of substance has changed. Do you think fox news is free of kike influence? There are plenty of kike owned outlets that sing his praises. Democracy is meant to pit on half of the country against the other while the string pullers evade mention. The vast majority of Trump supports will call you an anti-Semite is you question Israel. Trump literally has jews in his immediate family and constantly praises Israel. Its been 3 years and nothing significant has changed, actually he's been even harder on Iran than Obama was and has given Israel the moral backing behind settlements and Jerusalem. Exactly and now Trump has proven his loyalty to Israel first and not America by initiating war with Iran. Trump is a scumbag, a liar, a pervert. He is up to his neck in Epstein crimes. He is not MAGA, he is MIGA. He is a liar and a deceiver. He is blocking us from minting our new currency free of the banking cartel. He is an agent of the banking cartel, a total scumbag. He serves the Khazarian mafia of fake Jews.
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>>16625 The internet is a centralised platform, there is no way to engage with the public as you say without engaging with the internet. P2P is not an option frankly.
>>19973 >Tor isn't obscure When talking to your typical internet user, most hear "dark web" and think websites like 4chan qualify. The handful of people who know what the actual dark web is think it's about drugs, sex trafficking and murder. Some hard data: https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth.html Tor uses about 400GBits/s on average. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Media/Internet/International-Internet-bandwidth/Mbps As of 2004, the United States uses DOUBLE that amount, which can only have exploded since then as it is 16 years ago. Which solidifies my point that Tor is obscure and the best way for a website to be forgotten. >>20219 >He is a tool. His promises are fake and a smokescreen. You have been duped by a liar. I don't care about his integrity. I am talking about the fact that he was elected when it was clear that he was not intended to be. In other words, your argument is about why you don't like him, not why he won and so it isn't a rebuttal to my original argument that democracy worked. >>20221 You sound like a black panther fuming over whitey. You have a massive inferiority complex. Frankly, you sound like a neonazi version of a boomer when you spout off about MIGA. These are the basic facts: -Hillary was the media and establishment's darling to win the election. -She was given a greater than 90% chance of winning. -She lost, with swing states turning in historic ways towards Trump. -The counties supporting Trump greatly outnumbered the ones supporting Hillary. An observation: Israel and the Jews are used as a divide and conquer method of undermining Trump's support. The establishment knows that your demographic supported Trump, and that your demographic is obsessed with Jews, and so it's only natural that it's used against you to strip him of your support. It's a large-scale example of how Alabama voted in democrats due to sex scandals of a republican. At the end of the day, we both know that the democrats are working furiously to strip us of our rights. The Republicans are at present the only real opposition to this, and you keep undermining it. Your goose is going to be cooked when the next democrat makes it into office, and it won't matter what you think about Jews, it's simply a fact. >>20227 It is actually quite decentralized and can be whatever you want it to be. That gets into the technical, however. You should look at anonymous and decentralized messaging software as examples.
>>20267 >I am talking about the fact that he was elected when it was clear that he was not intended to be. That isn't clear at all. His previous use as a stalking horse for jewish interests against Pat Buchanan's nationalist platform in the late 90s/early 2000s and decades of experience in television media and fronting for mafia interests all point to a man who was explicitly chosen for the role at a very specific time.
>>20272 This.You will know them by their fruit.
>>20272 all the obnoxious celebrities who whined about trump were really marketing him. it was very obvious reverse-psychology. i don’t believe anyone who sincerely wants federal reformation will ever be allowed to come close to a real position of power
>>20272 Were you not following the election in its present time? The media finally took its mask off and unified against him, Democrats waged a very powerful propaganda war, and all the previously "neutral" parties aligned against him, even his own party fought against him. So I imagine your rebuttal being, "But that's what THEY wanted you to think" which is then discounted by the fact that the leviathans out there who pull strings, the Rothschilds and their cronies, all opposed him deeply. Then we have the post-election result which has been a continual effort to invalidate the election results and oust him from office. The next rebuttal then is, "But it's all a farse" or "But the REAL powers want him" which at this point sounds like magical thinking to me, because at this point you have an omnipotent enemy who is featureless and nameless and always a step ahead of you. Which, frankly, is how niggers think of whitey. >>20280 >>20282 See my argument above.
>>20353 >Were you not following the election in its present time? The media finally took its mask off and united against him. It's very rudimentary and crude reverse psychology as pointed out here >>20282 . The media attacks Trump, so Trump must be good. Public confidence and trust in the media is at all time lows and has been for years. Do you think the highly organized network of people who own and manage the media and have access to internet meta data don't understand this? Or they just overlooked it? Trump's implemented policies from day one are the only evidence anyone needs. But we also have his whole track record before he ever ran, too. This board is deader than a door nail, you really don't need to shill here. Own your golden goy's agenda.
>>20267 It doesn't even matter if it was "intended" for him to win or not. What matters in the end are results. "The wall" is a half-built cheap metal fence with bars you can pass stuff trough, immigration reform is non-existent, now the pupeteers decided to turn Trump into Bush 2.0. with the middle east. You don't 't win "because" of your opponents moves. The game is won before it even begins. You win regardless of your opponents moves. And they won. Even assuming Trump was somewhat sincere in his promises, he was brought. Doesn't matter who wins, so long as they can be brought. I don't see any way for the current path to change save a civil war.
>>16625 Adding the following to establish a timeline: https://www.vox.com/2017/9/21/16344978/facebook-google-twitter-reddit-russia-2016-election-house-senate-investigation https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/exclusive-reddit-ceo-talks-about-fending-russian-election-interference-n921151 https://www.cyberscoop.com/foreign-interference-2020-election-odni-framework/ https://www.cyberscoop.com/dnc-silicon-valley-facebook-twitter-youtube-disinformation/ https://qz.com/1764746/how-to-avoid-an-election-2020-misinformation-nightmare/ Facebook executives contemplating their power: https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/7/21055348/facebook-trump-election-2020-leaked-memo-bosworth In short, the election upset the establishment powers in Washington and silicon valley. They have been working hard to build public support for massive censorship and information control. We all knew that this was coming. >>20355 You clearly cannot recognize the difference between emergent systems (spontaneous organization of groups) and top-down meddling. Your rebuttal sounds like how a person who is mystified by all the various factions out there would attempt to explain the election results: a big, omnipotent adversary that is always ahead of you. You shouldn't be attempting to strategize anything, until you better understand how factions and movements can emerge and give the appearance of coordination. Right now you're just spreading disinformation which is designed to demoralize people into inaction. >This board is deader than a door nail, you really don't need to shill here. Own your golden goy's agenda. Another example of what I said: you can only see things as omnipotent powers and lack the ability to understand emergent systems. You're out of your element here and are just demoralizing people. >>20358 >It doesn't even matter if it was "intended" for him to win or not. Of course it does, because that bit tells us just how screwed we are. >What matters in the end are results. "The wall" is a half-built cheap metal fence with bars you can pass stuff trough, immigration reform is non-existent, now the pupeteers decided to turn Trump into Bush 2.0. with the middle east. No one believed that Trump would be able to do everything in a single term, two terms, or more unless he was a dictator. We are so far off the tracks right now that it could take 30 years to bring us back to a functioning society with healthy cultural norms and values. Trump was always a beachhead, our version of Normandy. He was the tool we needed to use to finally turn our online movement into something viable long-term in American and ultimately western politics and government. That is to say, he WAS our Normandy, but what happened after we won that election? Stormfags, Hitler-worshippers, and Jew-obsessed 1488s turned on the movement and attacked it from within, constantly alienating it from its members who were trying to get mainstream appeal and clout. Rather than building a popular movement which unites most Americans against our enemies from within and ultimately could form a formidable political presence, you have Nazi purists who think the best use of time is hating niggers, and screeching about Jews, homosexuals and porn. Because THAT is what really matters, some nebulous idea of ideological purity which makes the rest of us radioactive. So now, we have a second chance to turn things around if Trump wins a second term. Unifying the right on the internet and in the real world. Forming a popular movement which rebukes and identifies the problems plaguing us. Holding silicon valley, the DNC, and a whole host of family dynasties accountable. Or you could focus on why you hate niggers and the jews owning all the jew gold in the world, and why homosexuals having buttsex and selling you porn are the REAL problems... Fucking stormfags and nazis are the most useless people in our society. Almost as useless as communist scum. >I don't see any way for the current path to change save a civil war. Keep larping as a nazi, and taking the ideology brought to us by /new/ as gospel truth, and you will be left with only that option.
>>17325 >>17327 >>17328 >name calling, ad-hom >using "boomer" catchword to divide us You don't belong here
>>20739 All those words just to say "go civic nationalism, fuck everything else."
>>16625 >misinformation cost the Democrats the election, as well as foreign interference Misinformation literally saved the party from extinction. If anything, we may have started the path of Dems to returning to a former glory not seen since the civil war, well if the current members are smart anyway.
>>20739 I don't see an omnipotent enemy, dipshit. It's a very straightforward coalition put together by capital: jews, hindus, evangelicals, homosexuals aligned against muslims, white nationalists, and less so east asians -- whether the latter three even realize they are being targeted collectively or even like each other is not particularly relevant. There is no "emergent system". It's just capital doing what it has to do in the face of falling profit, domestic unrest, and the clear superiority of socialist economics and national industrial policy. Trump is just a self-serving conman and nothing about him and his team's behavior and tactics during the 2016 election were a surprise or missed by the more aware. His policies are his policies. You don't have a word to say about them because you can't refute it. Tax cuts for stock buyback. Tariffs to increase revenue for government coffers while destroying independent White land-owning farmers. Higher levels of illegal immigrants than the previous administration, which is in line with the actions of the two Republican administrations before him [the likely fatal swarm of Mexicans under Bush 43, and the 1990 Immigration Act under Bush 41]. A heavy focus on flooding the country with even more Hindus, because they share the extremely desirable combination of being anti-Muslim, anti-China, and anti-White -- a wet dream for American capital. It's all very, very clear if you understand what you're looking at. Jewish shills posting from israel and/or USAF bases in Florida or Nevada like you try to make it sound all very complicated. But we understand your angle and your motivations.
>>20739 >MIGA 2020 Stop finding excuses for this pawn. If he had dropped the hammer on the alphabet agencies, all Americans would have actually supported him. Defend US economy, stop and reverse immigration, cut ties to Israel by, at least, being far more neutral, denounce openly the Jewish overpower, etc. Nothing good will happen because democracy is a rigged system controlled by those who have money.
>>19188 So how do we counter what is happening now then?
>>20759 Then why are the importing Muslims into the west so fucking much, if it’s against the coalitions interest?
>>20787 They aren't, not in America anyway. Not in anything approaching the numbers of any other group. Specifically because they aren't politically reliable on the israel issue. In Europe the situation is different, because the various Muslim populations are serving different purposes and Europe is still a target of genetic annihilation for the United States/Anglosphere. In Germany, the Turkish population is an auxiliary occupation force assisting US troops. Same for Italy with their Muslims. In France, Netherlands, England, the inflow is the natural demand of capital for superfluous labor and the result of reinvestment of capital expended on petroleum. Same way the English went to war to force Indian opium onto the Chinese when the one-way tea trade was draining England of silver.
>>16632 Truth...funny that the fedfags can't hadle this. There is no political solution. The only way to stop an invasion is to start killing people and not stop.
> r/the_donald >beachhead For whom? >>17354 The Media overreacts to thing for a reason. It's like Wrestling ICE COLD STEVE AUSTIN isn't actually about to beat his manager to death in a hospital or kill his opponent but they want you to believe that. It's the same premise, there are pictures of Trump and Hillary from way back hand in hand. Because honestly they have more in common than apart and when you look at the Jews behind both of them the similaraity becomes apparent. If they make you believe being a MIGA supporter is the orignal sin what does that say about being a National Socialist? (which the majoity of Trump supporters aren't)
>>20739 >That is to say, he WAS our Normandy, but what happened after we won that election? Stormfags, Hitler-worshippers, and Jew-obsessed 1488s turned on Sooo he was found out? ... >mainstream appeal and clout. Riiiight... >building a popular movement What we have been trying to do for the last 100 years... >against our enemies from within I'd like you to define who "our" enemies are... >Fucking stormfags and nazis >could form a formidable political presence, formidable...political....presence.....for the "fucking stormfags and nazis"? >Nazi purists As opposed to Nazi multiculturalists... >screeching about Jews, .... and porn. >some nebulous idea >Jew-obsessed >So now, we have a second chance to turn things around if Trump wins a second term. AN OVEN DOOR CREEKS OPEN SOMEWHERE
>>16625 e-mail networks... emergency contact address/gateway address for those who will only use it after the boards go down... should have been done on 8chan, should be done on 4chan, should be done here, should have been done years ago... But no....
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>>20793 We have a lot of muslims in the USA but far more Mexicans. There are also lots of Indians with the Dems promising hundreds of thousands more. The Shrieking Nancys will cry at those promoting using force in self defense against all this yet hold your nose and cover your mouth and spend time in the lefty parts of the web and they are CONSTANTLY talking about committing violence to US.
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'''Should their censorship blot out the Sun, we shall meme in the shade. Their silencing our avenues of free speech makes a louder statement than our memes ever could.''' - (me) Anon.
>>20751 You would rather lose than admit that your ideology is flawed. You don't belong in any position with power or authority. By the way, because of your flawed beliefs, the enemy has navigated you into a completely alienated position. You won't even be able to have a voice within a year, maybe 2, because of your own stubbornness. >>20759 You don't see an omnipotent enemy, just an enemy that is all-powerful, is how I read your post. Then you fall into the trap of projecting your insecurities on the Trump administration and me. >>20762 Ok Boomer >>20786 I tried to give some suggestions. Focus on a decentralized, local network to spread information. Wickr, for example, is a messaging app used by journalists. Learn from AntiFa and other cells how to form strong social networks which are hidden. Silicon valley is about to unveil their "final solution" to people like you, in less than 4 years. You have 2 years to build social networks, mesh networks, off the main internet grid. Otherwise you're toast. >>20831 Anyone interested in standing up to the unelected leaders in this country. The self-appointed kings who set us all against each other as they rule over us. You fixating on Jews just makes you easy to manipulate. >>23306 More Boomers. I have no tolerance for stormfags. Stormfags are boomer-tier garbage who should be shoved into the nearest oven as far as I am concerned. You're cancer that destroys everything from within due to myopia and gullibility.
>>23515 this is what a screechy kike looks like when they aren't getting their way.
>>23308 >should have been done on 8chan There was the Tor address and the ZeroNet. I didn't go to either of them and I may be typical, so I suppose that's what you are saying. >>23515 >Focus on a decentralized, local network to spread information. Will check out Wickr. What do you think of PirateBox.cc?
>>23525 Also, what do you think of radio: CB, FRS, GMRS, ham? And packet radio over those frequencies?
>>23515 >Trump administration What exactly did they do to stop white genocide and promote white interests in the US and worldwide? Absolutely nothing. You found a wrong place to fish for votes. Civic nationalism IS defeat, failure, losing. Holding the principled position is the only way out, as unpopular as it may be at the start. As soon as you start getting flexible, your movement gets co opted by the kikes. > build social networks, mesh networks, off the main internet grid Good advice. But those will be targeted too once certain tech gets released for civilian use. >I have no tolerance for stormfags. You are likely writing to people who have explored pretty much every political and social option in existence, finding NS to be the most optimal, not your stereotypical 90's skinhead. You people never learn >>23526 Radio band internet has a lot of potential, but it suffers of low data bandwidth and many countries are heavily regulating it. You'd need to find some way to bounce/conceal the source of signal, otherwise you can easily be pinpointed with triangulation, and all that it takes for someone to press charges is for you to use an encrypted signal. Unless you make it sound like random noise or hide it behind ordinary audio signal
>>23545 >your movement gets co opted by the kikes. That anon is a kike.
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packet radio's fucking sick but it's super easy to triangulate so it's not going to get anywhere as long as the ZOG satellites are on station. after the collapse is going to be super spicy ASCII memes on 2400 bps ham radio. Currently getting a ham radio license requires you to register your address in a government database so you have to get a p.o. box and even then ham jannies can track you down with some antennas and stuff and bring in the dog shooters
>>23549 >That anon is a kike. Of course, only a kike would come to shill for (((Trump))) after all these years like nothing has happened. On an alt-chan nonetheless. Or it could be some poojeet paid $1 a day to post their talking points, who just wanted to fill his quota. But I'm curious how it would reply.
>>23545 >pinpointed with triangulation What about a herd of autonomous solar powered short range transmitters dropped in the woods and on rooftops? Like piratebox.cc but over radio?
>>23545 >As soon as you start getting flexible, your movement gets co opted This one of the two ways that all discussion groups die. >Some members form a core. >Core members develop an ideological purity among themselves. >Core members demonstrate to each other their purity and core status by insulting heretics. >Discussion atrophies into nothing but rehashing the core ideology. >Discussion dries up. >Group becomes hard but insulated, tiny, and ineffective, like a neutron star.
>>23601 More like; Core members enforce the purity of the world view while discussing amongst themselves better ways to apply it. So it isn't bogged down or mongrelfied as more people join. Making sure that our movement is many strong men supporting eachother and not one strong man trying to hold up the bloated weight of the masses.
>>23597 How many of those do you think you are going to need to transmit data over 100+ miles? How about another continent? You could theoretically develop a short range mesh network but it would be prone to jamming and interference. Unless you managed to get something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avtobaza >>23601 I guess that's one of the flaws of decentralized, semi-anonymous networks. This is why hierarchies exist, core members don't have time and/or nerves to deal with petty issues and lecture newbies. Also, you don't know is someone genuine or just some kike trying to waste your time. Besides, figuring out certain things on your own is a requirement to "join" A small group made of highly intelligent, knowledgeable and capable individuals is always preferable to a large mass of idiots. Truth becomes no less true even if no one holds it as a belief. Truth is not relative, democratic or popular. It is it's own frame of reference. There is also an inverse development of what you wrote. >Core members make compromises on ideological purity in order to become more widely encompassing and increase numbers >Kikes exploit those compromises to widen the elements of corruption and implant red herrings >Larger mass of people lacking in quality and knowledge hooks to those >Kikes use this to isolate the majority from the core members >We are back at the beginning Mass is something to be utilized, not to be drowned into. >>23622 Also this.
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>>23645 >There is also an inverse development of what you wrote. Yes. As I said, "This is one of the two ways..." Similar to pic related. O Poseidon, please help us to navigate safely between Scylla and Charybdis.
>>23669 that doesn't destroys a hobby. Don't the makers go away? Normies are to be abandoned and rejected at the very minimal expressions of misbehaviour.
>>16865 Piracy must be promoted. Down with intellectual property industries
>>23519 Ok Boomer. >>23525 Tor is overtaken by man in the middle attacks. Consider I2P. >>23525 Piratebox is a good start, but someone needs to take up its torch. >>23526 Having multiple methods to communicate is vital, but I would caution that starting too broad means that no single method can grow quickly enough to establish a common protocol or network. >>23545 >What exactly did they do to stop white genocide and promote white interests You mean besides banning the import of Muslim "refugees?" The point of Trump was to establish a beachhead, by which to start fielding more candidates and build a strong platform, a rebuttal to the left in this country. In short, Trump's existence allows you a chance to fight back. You refuse to see the forest for the trees. Also, by your standard, what has 16chan or any imageboard done for you or us? /pol/ hates the white race, just look at all the wingnut neonazis here who spread paranoia and paralysis, and create a rigid belief system which is intended to stifle innovation and strategy. So I put the question to you: What has /pol/ done to save the white race? Because as far as I can tell, the only thing you guys did was waste a once in a lifetime opportunity to grasp the reigns of a national zeitgeist and turn it into a weapon to undo the decades of damage brought to us since the '60s. All you did was spend the last 4 years foaming at the lips about jews and attack each other. >But those will be targeted too Paranoia. Paralysis. Rigid, inflexible belief structure. >You are likely writing to people who have explored pretty much every political and social option in existence, finding NS to be the most optimal You mean, they decided on their own to emulate a group of people who LOST the war. They copy the habits and thinking of a group of people who have had NOT A SINGLE victory in the last 50 years, by ANY metric, and continue to lose on every battlefield they attempt to occupy. I'm not white. I have no stake in your race surviving, aside from my desire for order in this world, but I am also smart enough to survive the coming darkness. What does it take you guys to admit that you bet on the wrong horse? That you are so invested in failing strategy that you are diving into a woodchipper? Guess I'll be taking a one-way trip to Argentina in a few years after all. >You found a wrong place to fish for votes. This is called bad faith. People use it typically when their thinking is atrophied or they seek group approval. >Civic nationalism IS defeat, failure, losing. Let's be real. Civic nationalism COULD be defeat, but because of the POSSIBILITY of defeat, you instead convinced yourself of joining the single movement which has a 100% chance of defeat: Ethnic Nationalism via NatSoc! Brilliant. No wonder your movement's numbers are drying up. > As soon as you start getting flexible, your movement gets co opted by the kikes Rigid thinking, dogmatic, lacking in vision. This is why you lost the war 3 years ago, and won't even be able to speak with other people in 4 years. Your hell awaits you for being so obtuse. >>23549 Hey again Boomer. >>23622 >Core members enforce the purity of the world view Key word is "enforce" because the world view cannot stand up to scrutiny or reason. It's just dogma repeated by empty-heads. Reminds me of the reddit board for anarchism, which lists all the rules which must be "enforced" on the members. Yeah, a board for anarchists whose very existence contradicts the ideology. Anyways, I think I said all I wanted to here. In just the short few months since I posted this thread, the board has become somehow even more myopic and self-defeating. I will leave you all with a very simple message and a warning: Jews don't matter. There is a bigger game here. You won't have a voice in less than 5 years. I don't mean social network bans or site bans either. I mean that everything you take for granted now will be gone in less than 5 years, and you will have NO infrastructure to plan. Do with that as you wish. I will be in "Argentina."
>>23783 >The point of Trump was to establish a beachhead. The point of Trump is to preserve niggerjew America and channel latent White interests straight to nowhere.
>>23789 What has Trump done? >Banned talking bad about Jews on campus. >More funding to Isreal. >Recognized Jeruslam. >Recognized all Isreal's terriortorial claims. >Used emient domain to build Fox Con plants Oh but he also! >Set up basic border security for ILLEGALS Sure we want to be replaced just LEGALLY! He's a kike puppet; the whole Republican party is the defintion of "controlled opposition". Trump is still >Anti-White >Pro-Jew >Pro-(((Capitalism))) >Pro the Lolbertarianism that got us into this mess in the first place I'll pass on Orange Zion.
>>23783 >Zion Don is a stepping stone Open your eyes, look at the many hobos on your street corner, count the many spics that don't speak a hell of english, and try telling me that again that Zion Don is saving the US. Hell, I didn't see this "Stronk Liter" during Charlottesville or when bump stocks were banned. >the banning of Muslim refugees Again, Trump didn't do jack shit on immigration. Just because he enforced Obongo travel ban list, doesn't mean there are zero immigrants coming into the country. Trump is handing out green cards to spics by the truckloads. While the fence that is stupidly called a wall, is not even complete. >/pol/ hates whites >wingnut (((Kushner))) is threatening to cut your pay migapede? >you wasted your time Correction, Zion Don's whole campaign is a waste of time. It still feels the same as if Obongo never left. Get the hell out of here with your projecting. >(((Civic Nationalism))) works goy trust me Yeah you mean the same half assed movement that put notable degenerates like Dicky Spencer, Gavin "proud goy" McAnus, and Faglo Kikeopolis that was made to fail? >give up goy your movement is over >I'm not white No shit, your nose can be seen all the way from Tel Aviv >your movement is drying up goy O rly?
>>23783 >What does it take you guys to admit that you bet on the wrong horse? Only heroes take up nearly impossible causes. Therefore, if I take up such a cause I'm a hero. If/when my cause fails I'm a fallen hero, yet still a hero. I can be lazy and unmotivated and still tell myself I'm a hero. "I failed only because the task was nearly impossible. I'm heroic for even attempting it."
Wow! This is the first time I've ever seen or heard the word Wickr from anyone else but myself. I have been thinking about this for so long. I can't even get conspiracy faggots online to form an anonymous social/chat network with me let alone friends/family. Now will one of you oldfags show a newfag how to embed a fawking vid so I can embed the wickr related vid I'm thinking of?
>>23796 Agreed, but I'm not sure why you would refer to anything about the US as even a bad parody of libertarianism. The whole country is run by various flavors of statist niggers. On the rare occasions someone isn't pushing some statist agenda, it's to fuck us by subverting the very few things the state should actually control, like immigration.
>>23826 Yeah and it turned out this way as a direct result of that liberalism and open goverment. I mean think why these "checks and balances" are needed in the first place; because anyone can get into office and (((anyone))) can use their currency to control the organs of the state (congress, senate ect) and control the opinion of the masses (Jewish Media). This is why we mirror the late Roman Republic almost exactly, rampant degeneracy, a corrupt senate going against the people. Just it's even worse, we have a senate filled with two parties who both see White Idenity as nothing but a plauge that must be removed. If the founding fathers set up a dictatorship ruled by a party of intelligent people who from that pool comes the next "Leader" as nominated by the current one. We would of never had this mess. George would of elected his successor and he would of elected his. Leading to no room for a Lincolin or a Truman to sneak in and ruin it all. (Both of whom were elected by the masses) Liberalism doesn't work; Fascism does. Seeing how America is these days there is no doubt if someone like Thomas Jefferson came back from the dead and took alook around him at modern America he would of written it off as a failed experiment and began to work towards destroying it. It's a logical fallacy to say because everyone says it, it means it is right. Not everyone is equal, thus not equally capable of ruling, thus not equally capable of deciding whom should through voting. All the electoral college is "fix" the problem by limiting the amount of voters, but it's still just as bad for the same reasons. Any system that envolves suffrage of any kind and the freedom of the press to spread lies is bound to fall from the inside out.
>>23829 can you libertarians please stop infecting these boards?
>>23833 I'm not really sure what that had to do with the wikr app... Can someone show me how to embed vids in chans now?
>>23849 Also I was reffering mostly to his libertarian economic policys which are bunk. Like deregulating the pork industry for instance; that being said all forms of Liberalism are bad including political as I stated in; >>23833
>>23835 Nobody else is answering. I can't help since I don't know, either, but I can tell you that you need to convert to animated gif or .webm and then upload just like an image.
>>23835 Oh my bad, I meant ; >>23883 and >>23839 for >>23829
>>23844 Gonna hang myself meant; >>23833 not >>23883 All these numbers are swiming together. It's to late for this shit.
>>16625 Can we stay on topic? What's Plan B?
>>23826 >>23835 Embeded videos are handled by lynxchan front end, simply post url of video. Support for most video platforms is already working, may have to add support for wickr though. Try posting link and see if it embeds. If not, can make post on meta asking BO to add wickr embed
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>>23841 >>23826 >>23835 If its a short clip (50MB)(mp4 or webm) you can simple upload like any file
>>23851 Thank you for this fren.
bump. someone in this thread asked for a calamity as some motivation well wish granted
>>18994 literally all you have to do in burgerland is start using a well regulated militia. it's extremely simple
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>>28270 The Australian Government Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) like the U.S. Department of State has its logo on Muslim NGO posters. There are probably not too many layers behind that well-dressed doctor immunising Palestinian children and the black-clad insurgent killing Israeli Jews. Wouldn't it be a shame if Australia's Jewish diaspora were to hear of such things and start to use their contacts to attack DFAT for antisemitism?
>>23834 No (((you)))
>>20355 >Trump's implemented policies from day one are the only evidence anyone needs. Ok, how does having fuel efficiency standards help you at all? What benefits do they have for the people? Since when has the EPA (started by Nixon) helped whites at all?

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